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Who's Got Your Back?
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5:09 pm
October 20, 2009


Cubmaster Chris

Cedar Park, Texas

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posts 515

5:25 pm
October 20, 2009


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

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posts 483

I just listened to this one, and it really opened my eyes…I am always there, and have never thought about my backup…thanks, Chris

Host of the True North Podcast
Co-Host of Scout Nation
Scoutmaster
Dad and Husband…

6:20 pm
October 20, 2009


Nick the UK GSL

Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, UK

PTC Boy Scout

posts 146

Interesting point Chris. I think I'm in the same boat as Shawn. There isn't anyone specifically in our Group who could take over my job as such.

However, it's not quite so initially critical for my role as the Group Scout Leader doesn't run the Pack or Troop for example. The GSL does need to be in place to ensure the smooth running of the Group.

Good point and food for thought.

Nick Wood –

Group Scout Leader
1st Stoke-on-Trent & Newcastle, St. Andrews Porthill, UK

6:40 pm
October 20, 2009


Scouter Jeff

Southern California

PTC Boy Scout

posts 150

Great point Chris! As I've learned personally this year, you never know what life will throw your way. It's almost a disservice to your unit if you don't have someone that can take over for you should life issues take you out of service (or at a minimum identified as one that can take over for you).

That being said, how about those that barely can get a position filled, let alone have a backup. What feedback would they give?

You touched on another point that I think is really important, especially for those of us that volunteer outside of our own son's unit. It's so important to balance things so that your family doesn't end up resenting your service to Scouting. What strategies do we employ to make our family feel more important than our service to Scouting? How do we manage things so we don't ever hear the words "Scouting widow/widower"?

Thanks for this. You sure said a lot in under 2 minutes!

- Scouter Jeff

Assistant Scoutmaster, District Trainer

http://thetrainerscorner.wordpress.com/

Twitter: Scouter Jeff

6:10 am
October 21, 2009


MISS Liberty

California

Admin

posts 231

DISCLAIMER: I feel inclined to share my family's situation since I know I recently posted something similar to this on Twitter, though I doubt this was the catalyst for this particular Cubbing Minute.

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The first thing I learned at my first Scouting related training?

"If you're the glue that holds your unit together, you're doing it wrong."

I didn't truly understand it until this past fall, though.  (I still owe thanks to Shawn and my amazing Unit Commissioner for helping me through THAT nightmare.) 

At this point I'm not exactly superfluous, but I can step away for a week or two (or four as was the case with Wood Badge responsibilities) and things ran JUST FINE.  Oh sure, my fat ego would like to believe things are better if I'm there, but when the time comes for me to move in a different direction in Scouting, the Pack will survive and thrive without me.

All that being said…

The troop situation is horribly, miserably bad right now.  I can't even begin to explain how heartsick I am over the issue.

My husband has spent almost a year trying unsuccessfully to get adults replaced after their kids have aged out of the program or as parents have grown weary or moved on to other things.   My husband finally reached his breaking point when he attended the August Committee meeting with ideas and suggestions on how to revive the dying troop.  He was told, "Everything's fine.  We have plenty of time to figure this out."

Recharters are due soon.  They haven't figured it out.  There aren't enough adults stepping forward to recharter as of this writing.

There's so much more to the story, but no sense airing dirty laundry.  The gist is this: each person must take responsibility to replace him or herself or at least to train someone else to step in an emergency. Important paperwork (especially Advancement stuff!) needs to be available to more than one person JUST IN CASE.   If one person fails to create such a safety net, a unit can usually pull things together.  If three or four volunteers leave a gap, things are going to get very difficult.

In the end, when my oldest son said, "I want to go do Venturing instead."  My husband took that as his cue to move on in that direction with his volunteering time.  It was a hard decision, but sometimes sticking with a sinking ship isn't courageous, it's just wasteful.

"[S]He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which." ~ Douglas Adams

12:58 pm
October 21, 2009


BigMc

Houston

PTC Tenderfoot

posts 243

I was actually been moving in the right direction without knowing it.  I have a parent who is ACM and has led a meeting when I wasn't there.  I also have my parents looking throught he book for a topic they want to teach.  My theory is that if there is a Achievement/Activity pin, Elective,  or belt loop that is in someone elses area of expertise, tey can teach it much better than I can (plus I don't get the "you shoulda done it this way!" comments).  However, informally moving this way and being more proactive are two different things.  I need to move more towards the proactive point, since I am becoming more involved with my older son's Troop.  That way scheduling conflicts don't impact the unit.

Kevin Mc.
ScoutMaster – Troop 1865;
Copperhead District;
Sam Houston Area Council;
Houston, TX;
Twitter TaxgeekKM

12:03 pm
October 25, 2009


SeaBeeDiver

Buchanan, MI

PTC Tiger

posts 7

Quick and to the point……we can't get enough parents to even help….much less take over. We almost lost the pack two years ago because no one would step up when the CC and CM (husband and wife) quit right before re-charter. As it is right now we have a bare minimum, CC, CM, Secretary, Treasurer and 4 den leaders. We need to split the dens but can't get anyone to help as den leaders, so if anyone drops out we're back to scrambling to keep the pack going.

Spencer, Committee Chair, Pack 541, Buchanan MI, www.cubpack541.net

9:52 am
October 26, 2009


smwalker_oh

Middletown, Ohio

PTC Star Scout

posts 592

Continuity of leadership is going to be one of the main topics at our leaders meeting this week.  It is especially important for me because I don't see anyone who could step into the CC role (replace me) right this minute who isn't aging out with their son before I do in 2011.

(Also, my son's WDL just had to resign due to time issues, so I'm now bumped up from AWDL to WDL for my son's den.  Increased workload, yay!)

PT – Pack 19 Middletown
CR/CC – Pack, Troop & Crew 801 Middletown
MC, Packs 321, 418 & 468, Middletown
Hopewell District Cub Roundtable Commissioner
Hopewell 2011 Fall Recruitment Coordinator – Middletown
Dan Beard Council Certified Trainer
GSWO NOVA #449 Service Unit Camping Coordinator

10:17 pm
November 18, 2009


BearMitzvah

PTC Tiger

posts 8

Its interesting that you've brough this up.    I'm the CM of our pack and I have no CA.   I've actively looked for one but for whatever reason, parents are more incliined to be a den leader than a Cubmaster. 

Two years ago, I found out what would happen.   People come out of the woodwork to help in a crisis!!   I had to fly to FL to be with my Mom who was critical.   I was gone for 6 weeks.   Luckily, the hospital had wi-fi and I had a laptop.   Many folks didn't know I was gone until Iwas a no show at Blue & Gold.

I joke that my CC and I share a brain.   She backs me up and acts as CA at pack meetings.   I help her with some of the administrative stuff for the pack.

With that said …. my son crossed over last winter.   I was asked to stay on.   I've agreed to stay on "as long as I'm having fun".   When its no longer fun for me, the program will suffer.   That's not good for anyone.

So …. I'll keep looking for a CA.   Maybe one of those new Tiger parents will come forward?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
~ Albert Einstein


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