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An Hour A Week? #200
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1:09 am
October 26, 2009


Cubmaster Chris

Cedar Park, Texas

Admin

posts 407

#200-Wicked Game

It's the big 2-0-0! Tonight we cover a possible urban legend, snacks at meetings, a treasurer problem follow-up, Scout museum ideas, reaction to the Video Game Beltloop, signing Webelos books efficiently, and discussing who's got YOUR back.

Links:
Autistic boy saves his teacher's life-http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7065148

Tonight's show sponsored by Badge Magic


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4:36 am
October 26, 2009


Nick the UK GSL

Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, UK

PTC Boy Scout

posts 125

Congratulations on show 200! That is an impressive acheivement and I hope there are many, many more shows to come!Cool

Nick Wood – Group Scout Leader 1st Stoke-on-Trent & Newcastle, St. Andrews Porthill, UK

9:57 am
October 26, 2009


SMWalker

Middletown, Ohio

PTC First Class

posts 451

I was sad I couldn't stay up late enough to listen live. :(

But I am impressed that it's already posted so quickly!  Yay!

Scott Walker,nCC/WDL/PT, Pack 19 Middletown | CR, Pack & Troop 801 Middletown | Hopewell District Cub Roundtable Commissioner | Dan Beard Council Certified Trainer

11:43 am
October 28, 2009


SMWalker

Middletown, Ohio

PTC First Class

posts 451

I dislike the idea of replacing the trained patch with making the position patches restricted.  There's a few reasons why but the biggest one is how are parents going to know what that leader's position is without the position patch?  Would the suggestion be to do the same at youth positions within the troop?  I'm not a fan, thumbs down on this one.

The youth protection renewal notice idea is great but I think it would be better to instead of emailing the specific leaders to do that and possibly send a list to the Committee Chair on a periodic basis that they could pass along to the Pack Trainer (or equivalent in the Troop or Crew).  Council can already pull down a "trained" or "untrained" for a district or a unit, it should not be too difficult to have the feedback not just going to the leader whose training is going to lapse but also to the people in the unit who are responsible for making sure that doesn't happen.

Scott Walker,nCC/WDL/PT, Pack 19 Middletown | CR, Pack & Troop 801 Middletown | Hopewell District Cub Roundtable Commissioner | Dan Beard Council Certified Trainer

7:24 pm
October 28, 2009


MISS Kris

Admin

posts 81

You talked about units and banking….one comment that I wanted to make:

As a Scout Shop employee I've dealt with alot of units that have debit cards.  I thought, when I first figured this out, it was a GREAT idea!  These are units that are located HOURS away from the shop and it's just not convenient for them to come in in person.  BUT, having the debit card means that no one has to put the Pack purchases on their personal card which makes it way easier for everyone!  Yes, it does add a piece of temptation to those who carry it, but no more than having a check book in their pocket.

When dealing with money there is ALWAYS a temptation no matter what form it is.  But, for bookkeeping purposes having a card to put everything on is WAY easier than dealing with dozens of receipts.

Also, the Trick or Treating labels idea… I had that idea 2 years ago!!  The unit that I gave it to blew it off and are on the verge of folding.  We're going to try it at our house this year!!!


Keep up the great work, Chris!!!

Kris Brabham – Pack Trainer, ADC, District Events Chair for Cub Scouts, Lion Program Committee Member

7:40 pm
November 1, 2009


ArvadaScout

Arvada, CO

PTC Boy Scout

posts 129

Make that two votes for not dropping the 'trained' patch. 

Steve Waltz — District Commissioner, Gateway District

10:36 am
November 2, 2009


Scouter_Garry

SATX

PTC Webelos

posts 87

Not in favor of dropping trained patch.  I'm in favor of modifying the trained patch.   To signify which level or which position it is for. 

How about  we use the epaulet colors and up to a 4 character code for each position.

So Cub master would have a blue border and "CM Trained" Instead of just trained.

Assistant scout master would be green  with ASM trained. ETC…

You could only buy the patches  when you showed a scoutnet report that  proved your qualifications.


3:46 pm
November 2, 2009


Kiff76

Bristol, UK

PTC Webelos

posts 86

Can I just clarify what "trained" means 

See in the UK you go through appointments, which gives you your appointment (scout leader, cub scout leader, ACC etc.) you then have one year to complete the associated Woodbadge training. 

I currently hold a woodbadge for my SL position and I have almost completed the Woodbadge for my ACC position (all be it I don't get a second wood badge just a second certificate.) 

the sign of being "trained" or having completed the require UK scouting modules for the role in the UK is the Woodbadge beads hanging round a persons neck. 

My understanding is that your Trained Badge is similar to our Woodbadge

Chris Meadows – ACC Scouts – Avon Scout County *10 bins, 4 planks of wood, 3m of rope and a river full of crocodiles. Sounds like a normal Thursday night.

4:10 pm
November 2, 2009


Scouter_Garry

SATX

PTC Webelos

posts 87

I venture to say yes, Chris.  One of the issues is the trained patch is not really under any control. You walk into the Scout shop and pick up two or three. No one ever asks you anything.

In the states the woodbadge course is  "higher education" for scouters.  We have  course work over two weekends or sometimes 6 days. We are assigned a troop guide to verify our ticket has been worked. Only after both are completed do we get the  beads, woggle, and taupe kercheif.  The woodbadge regalia is under strict control. If we loose a piece of the regalia we have to show proof of completion, blood samples, submit to  interrogation, etc… 

5:44 pm
November 2, 2009


Nick the UK GSL

Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, UK

PTC Boy Scout

posts 125

Scouter_Garry said:

The woodbadge regalia is under strict control. If we loose a piece of the regalia we have to show proof of completion, blood samples, submit to  interrogation, etc… 


That's the same with us as well. If you want a new set of beads or a Gilwell necker, when you place the order you have to give your Wood Badge number so that you can be checked as a verified Wood Badge holder. That's the way it ought to be really!

Nick Wood – Group Scout Leader 1st Stoke-on-Trent & Newcastle, St. Andrews Porthill, UK

7:12 am
November 3, 2009


Kiff76

Bristol, UK

PTC Webelos

posts 86

My understanding the the Woodbadge even in the US is controlled, ultimately, via Gillwell Park after all on completion you become a member of 1st Gillwell this the Gillwell Knecker and Woggle.


and Nick is is KNECKER you should know betterLaugh

Chris Meadows – ACC Scouts – Avon Scout County *10 bins, 4 planks of wood, 3m of rope and a river full of crocodiles. Sounds like a normal Thursday night.

9:09 am
November 3, 2009


MISS Liberty

Admin

posts 113

Several years ago when we had issues with leadership and bank accounts, we did, in fact, use committee minutes to remove two signers on the bank account and to add two different committee members.  I believe we had to have 3 committee member signatures on the meeting minutes.


CONGRATULATIONS ON SHOW 200!!

6:43 am
November 4, 2009


BigMc

Houston

PTC Tenderfoot

posts 209

Great show, Chris.  You commented in the "Who's got your back" section about people thinking they are indispensable.  To quote the guy I worked for right out of college, "Anytime someone things they are indispensible in a position, they should quit!"

Kevin Mc. Den Leader – Pack 1187; Committee Member – Troop 1865; Copperhead District; Sam Houston Area Council; Houston, TX; Twitter TaxgeekKM

9:32 pm
November 10, 2009


mbeyke

Carterville, IL.

PTC Bear

posts 41

Congratulations on this milestone. 

God Bless, Mark L. Beyke "Preach the Gospel at all times. If necessary, use words!" St. Francis of Assisi

11:35 pm
November 10, 2009


Cubmaster Chris

Cedar Park, Texas

Admin

posts 407

Thanks y'all!

10:35 am
November 11, 2009


Scouter_Garry

SATX

PTC Webelos

posts 87

Scouter_Garry said:

Not in favor of dropping trained patch.  I'm in favor of modifying the trained patch.   To signify which level or which position it is for. 

How about  we use the epaulet colors and up to a 4 character code for each position.

So Cub master would have a blue border and "CM Trained" Instead of just trained.

Assistant scout master would be green  with ASM trained. ETC…

You could only buy the patches  when you showed a scoutnet report that  proved your qualifications.



Rethought  my position.  Just place the dern things under control.  If they can restrict access to the year of Celebration ribbons they can certainly restrict access to the trained patch.

8:48 am
December 2, 2009


SMWalker

Middletown, Ohio

PTC First Class

posts 451

I agree.  They should have been restricting access to the trained patch from the get go.  In our council after someone takes the classroom training courses for their position we give them the trained patch, but anyone can go into the scout shop and buy more.  The theory is "A Scout is Trustworthy" and surely adults wouldn't buy patches for something they hadn't earned, especially Scout leaders, right?

Scott Walker,nCC/WDL/PT, Pack 19 Middletown | CR, Pack & Troop 801 Middletown | Hopewell District Cub Roundtable Commissioner | Dan Beard Council Certified Trainer


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