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An Hour A Week? #218
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12:34 am
March 15, 2010


Cubmaster Chris

Cedar Park, Texas

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Post edited 11:27 am – March 15, 2010 by Cubmaster Chris


#218-You Can Talk To Me

Using social media for Scouting, Be A Scout, membership cards, newbie cheerleading, and more feedback on this Spring Break show.

Links:
Cub Scouts 2010-http://bit.ly/bL3LrN
Scouting Podcast Widgets-http://bit.ly/9o3wbz

Tonight's show sponsored by The Boy Scout Store


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9:10 am
March 26, 2010


Mr Wil

Port St John, FL

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Hi Chris,

Surprised to be the first one here!  Great show as usual.  I am a "retired" CM, now an ASM for about a year.  I have two sons; a Bear and a Second Class.

Our troop welcomes visitors at any troop meeting.  We do like to have a little notice to be sure we can be sure to include our guests but it is not necessary.

We do not put on a show for visiting boys.  We do pull the boys and their parents aside for about 5 or 10 minutes to explain how and why we do what we do, which is basically a heads up on the boy-lead troop concept. 

When my son and his fellow WEBELOS visited this troop, they had all but decided to join another.  When they (we) were pulled aside for that talk the boys in the troop were getting prepared for the weekend's camp out.  Our boys were just enthralled with the fact that there was a boy (SPL) leading the other boys prepping all of the gear for the weekend and they ALL were helping while the adult leaders were standing to the side kinda just hanging out and not telling the scouts what to do.  Boy led is the only way to go.


My $0.02.  Cool

Wil Henzmannn – WEBELOS Dad – Second Class Dad, Assistant Scoutmaster Troop 355 Sharpes, FL

6:56 pm
March 26, 2010


Nick the UK GSL

Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, UK

PTC Boy Scout

posts 140

With regard to the World Membership badge being already on the uniform, this is what we do in my Group.

When we invest a Scout (etc.) and welcome them into the Troop, we give them their badges. We always hand over each one and explain the significance of the badge. We tell them that the World membership badge is the one that EVERY Scout wears and means that they are now part of the worldwide Scouting family. If it was already on the shirt it would be less meaningful!

Nick Wood – Group Scout Leader 1st Stoke-on-Trent & Newcastle, St. Andrews Porthill, UK

9:17 am
March 29, 2010


Scouter_Garry

SATX

PTC Boy Scout

posts 106

You could put the WOSM patch on the youth shirts as they would not have a reason to put it anywhere else. The adults that earn knots and collect more than 9 tend to drift the WOSM patch up to give an even appearance to the shirt.

My chief issue with putting the WOSM patch on the shirt is it would in the end be fused on to the shirt not sewn as with the current flag and the Boy Scouts of America lettering.

11:12 am
April 14, 2010


MISS Emily

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Chris (and Nancy),


I was catching up for my "real" listen to AHAW since I get distracted during the life show.  I was struck by Nancy's situation with the challenging family, and a situation that my pack recently had with a group of 3 boys that joined in 4th grade.


In August, we had 8 boys who were in 5th grade, and no 4th graders.  I'm not completely sure why, as I think that there is some past history that is WAY before my time.  During our fall round-up we had 3 4th graders and 1 5th grader show up.  The Web II leader said that they would be welcome to come to their den meetings initially to get situated, but as those boys all had rank and were primarily working on crossing over and the AOL, the 4th graders would be better served by starting their own den, and selecting their on DL.  The 5th grader was given a choice, and he elected to work independently with his family and do what was going on in the Web II den. (He earned rank and crossed over last month.)


In September, the CM, Bear DL, and Web II DL (since they were meeting at the same time, and had similar aged boys) tried very hard to get these boys situated and set up a den.  None of those parents wanted to be the DL. The parents would drop their boys off at the door and come back an hour later, and the boys would look confused.  One night, one of them came up to me and said, "Mr. So-n-So, X's dad, said that he would run our meeting tonight, but they're not here."  In the fall when those things happened, the CM and Web II leader would have those join the Web II den, but the fit and program weren't there for them. 


Some of us in the leadership felt horrible that we weren't really serving those boys.  I kept asking– how are we gonna make this den work? At recharter, we sat down with those parents, and asked them what they wanted to do.  The parents were angry at the committee and the leadership, and felt that we hadn't served them.  None of them rechartered with us: 1 switched units, and 2 dropped out. I had (and have) guilt, and we tried to debrief about the situation.  We didn't serve those boys, that's true.  However, we needed to be met halfway, and none of the parents wanted to do that. Maybe we should have dragged them along more, I don't know?


I'd like to think that I do an okay program, better than some and not as great as others, but I try.  I'm a work in progress.  As much as I'd like to think otherwise, lil ol' me doesn't have the ability to do it all for every boy.  Miss Liberty said once in one of our shows, that she will make sure that every boy in her pack as the opportunity to obtain the AOL, but she's not going to give it to him.  He *and his family* have got to be a part of the equation.  Most of the time that means showing up and being active in the meeting, but sometimes it means working on a few things at home, or going somewhere extra on a Saturday morning.


When that boy doesn't have all of the requirements for rank, sometimes I do feel bad, and I do wonder if I should let it slide and give it to him anyways.  I've decided that is probably my own issue.  I want all of the boys to be happy and never disappointed.  However, Chris, you're right.  Boys feel more proud and accomplished if they get something through earning it, and there are important lessons in *not* getting a freebie, such as patience, determination, perseverance and learning to manage disappointment.  Those are values that we need to be teaching our cubs.


That being said, with Tigers, I have participation patches for almost everything, and they LOVE those, and know what they did to get them.  I actually do that more to create a tangilble narrative of what they've done this year, so that they can look back on their patches and remember the activities.  (BTW, those are given in the moment, not at the pack meeting.)

MISS Emily, Committee Chair and TDL Pack 103, Atlanta, GA **A proud Mother in Scouting Service along with MISS Kris, MISS Liberty, and MISS Shannon**


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