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Unit Commissioners

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10:20 am
July 8, 2010


Kris

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posts 122

I listened to show #230's chat about the Unit Commissioner position. I could put this feedback attached to the show but I thought it was interesting enough to pull it out.

A little background about me…I was asked to be an ADC for Cub Scouts for our district. That meant I got to go to Committee meetings galore! I did a bunch of the trainings (the online ones and you can feel free to take them, they're all open to everyone and it gives you some insights)

Now, our district has very few ACTIVE Unit Commissioners. There's been a recent push to get more of them active. This push really started 2 years ago when we got a new DD (District Director). He, our District Commissioner & myself visited a large number of the units. It was great to visit units I hardly even knew existed. Our District Commissioner started to make himself more available to the units and it was great. I felt good putting it out there to let units know I was available to help if they needed it. A few even took me up on it!

Unfortunately, units with "experienced" leadership didn't invite us much. They still saw it as "spying" (HATE that BTW). But the newer leaders really seemed to like it because it gave them faces to turn to. I still don't think everyone feels comfortable going to Mike or me but we put it out there and the ones that won't reach out to us, don't reach out to anyone.

NOW….I have since resigned as ADC as well as all of my other District/Council level positions and stepped in to be acting CM for a small, reorganizing Pack (one I worked with as an ADC). I also "consult" with another small pack in our town that is trying to rebuild. My Pack has a GREAT UC, if you know the right questions to ask. The other pack, not so much. He comes to visit at the beginning, asks if everything is okay, she says yes and he's on his way without even staying for the meeting. In reality, she's having problems with a parent, the CC & the CO. We (me & her) did get most of the issues resolved (parents are never an easy fix) and her UC never got wind of any of it. Some inside information on the CC issue is that she has the DD's ear for another reason and she asked him how to "remove" him. WRONG phrasing. The DD went all text book, freaked her out and almost made the situation worse. In actuality, the CC had resigned and she needed to know how to put someone new in (fill out the paperwork). Going to the DD did not help!!!

Now…just recently I needed some information for my Pack. I followed the chain of command to a T (slightly crooked, but for the most part, correct). I emailed my question to my UC and cc'd the District Commissioner (he & I are still friends). The UC came back with a very PC reply of he'd research it and get back to me. Just what I wanted (expected). Unfortunately I was in a hurry for the info so I pulled in a brownie point or 2 (that I earned by volunteering for the secretary at council) and got the info a bit quicker. The next day he comes back to me with a forward from the DD. I had to laugh because the DD told my UC that the information I had requested was not available (didn't exist) as I stood with it in my grimy little hands.

My former CM hubby asked why I didn't just go to the secretary in the first place? I replied that it isn't the way it should happen and I'm training these new parents how to do stuff so I have to do it "right" (no one knows about the secretary favor but ya'll).

I guess, the long & the short of it is that the UC program is a great program….IF it's done right. Most of the people WE have in UC positions haven't been directly involved in program in YEARS and really have no clue about how it works, either practical or theoretical even. That's part of why I dropped hints to our District (and even Council) Commissioner that they should talk to my former CM hubby about being an UC or even better, ADC. He's in touch with how it SHOULD be and can genuinely help (also people feel comfortable talking to him).

And that's MY view of the whole thing

10:37 pm
July 9, 2010


ScouterAdam

Portland, OR

PTC Webelos

posts 86

I have, er had a great Unit Commissioner! I met her my first year as a Tiger Den Leader. As I became the Cubmaster, she became a UC. I asked the District Commissioner about getting one, and I got her! She told me that I had a "fun" pack. Guess I am doing well!

When I get out of the Pack and do not become a ASM, I will look into being a UC. My hope is to become a ASM and also a trainer within the District if not Council.

Cubmaster Pack 221 Portland, OR WE1-492-09 Beaver Patrol, Staff WE1-492011, Blog:http://scouteradam.wordpress.com/

4:47 pm
July 26, 2010


smwalker_oh

Middletown, Ohio

PTC Star Scout

posts 596

I really like my new UC. The last guy I cannot say anything about, positive or negative, since he'd never visited our pack in several years (no contact whatsoever, but that wasn't just us, it was across the board as he had an illness and finally resigned from scouting as he realized he just couldn't keep up with it anymore).

The new UC is very helpful and I don't have to go to him much for issues but that's because I also end up being a partial UC for my pack (and most of the units in my town) as I am the RTC.

As my son is nearing the end of his time as a Cub Scout, and I have been the Cub Roundtable Commissioner for over 3 years now, my DC and I know it is time to start looking for my replacement. He asked if I had any suggestions and I threw out a couple names that I felt would be good and he said he wanted them for Unit Commissioners. I responded that I think UC's have it easy, they only have 3-5 units assigned to them (theoretically, I know it can be less or more depending on # of units in a district and # of UC's), while the Roundtable Commissioner is the defacto UC for every unit. Unit leaders see that person at the front of the room every month as the guy who is supposed to know what is going on, they naturally come to us when they have an issue. My DC was kind of floored by that but had to admit that was true.

The Commissioners corps is a great resource and I would strongly recommend to any Cub Scout leader whose son is aging out that if they don't plan on moving on to the troop they consider sharing the knowledge they've learned during their tenure with other leaders by being a part of the commissioners in their district.

PT – Pack 19 Middletown
CR/CC – Pack, Troop & Crew 801 Middletown
MC, Packs 321, 418 & 468, Middletown
Hopewell District Cub Roundtable Commissioner
Hopewell 2011 Fall Recruitment Coordinator – Middletown
Dan Beard Council Certified Trainer
GSWO NOVA #449 Service Unit Camping Coordinator


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