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Pack Camping Trip — disasters (barely) averted

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6:53 pm
November 27, 2010


AmyS

Tucson, AZ

PTC Bear

posts 52

We had our first camping trip with our new camping chair a couple of weeks ago.  It all turned out great in the end–just thought I'd share a couple of things we ended up re-learning:

First, the phone call 2 weeks before the campout–the site we'd reserved was restricting us to 8 vehicles. This was a new regluation since we camped there a couple of years ago. They did have another site available though, which would allow the 15-20 vehicles we were expecting–for another $30/night. Oh and that site doesn't have its own vault toilets–you'd have to walk down to the next site to use theirs. Doh!  Fortunately, we could cover the cost and the new site was actually nicer.

Second, one of our asst. cubmasters who usually brings up everything in the storage unit related to camping? Couldn't make it. And, no one else thought to go pick up all of those items–our new camp chair figured the person in charge of the food was also in charge of the cooking equipment. She didn't realize he was thinking she'd pick all that stuff up as well as the food. The storage unit has our unit flags, camp stoves, canopy, camp tools and the flag we were planning on doing a retirement ceremony for. Doh! Fortunately a couple of us (myself and one other mom) had brought our own propane stoves and kitchen boxes–but cooking for 60 on 4 burners and limited propane made for some interesting meal trade-offs!  The site fortunately also had some nice grills so we were able to do some cooking that way, but we still pretty much ran the fuel out by Sunday morning.

Third, it was really cold. We had a couple families not come, we didn't know if it was because of the temps or because of illnesses, but they didn't tell us they weren't coming until the day before. We ended up with way too much food–which is usually better than not enough, but it can turn into a budgeting problem. We had a campfire going all day Saturday–which meant we needed more wood. Fortunately it was the last weekend the campground was open so we got permission from the camp host to raid other campsites for split wood.

Fourth, one of the families who couldn't make it was one of our leaders, in charge of geocaching, map and compass, and whittling chip. They hadn't given us the map of where they wanted to do the hike for map and compass so we had no idea where they'd planned to go. I did have the geocaches loaded in my own GPS so we just did the geocaching portion (once we figured out a trail to get there) not the M&C. For whittling chip we went up the mountain where there were phones and called up one of the people coming up Sat. morning so they could pick up some Ivory soap and plastic knives.

So, the campout didn't look much like we originally planned it, but we ended having a good time anyway! Looking at it, though, our 'backup' methods depended heavily on just a couple of families who just happened to have brought things along (myself included).  I just wonder what would have happened if we didn't have a lot of experienced campers in the group–it could've been a pretty miserable weekend!

10:15 pm
November 28, 2010


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

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posts 492

The important thing is that you adapted and were able to overcome. Sounds like you had a good, time, and in the end, that's what makes for the best stories…

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7:15 am
November 29, 2010


Scouter Warren

NC

PTC Wolf

posts 34

The thing about cub scouts, at least with our pack, is the amount of turnover from year to year with the leadership positions.  The bad thing about this is that you have to 'reinvent the wheel' each year. 

 

We lost our camp cook last year.  The guy was a cook in the Navy and basically did all of the cooking for the Pack.  This year, we are trying to scale it down a bit and hopefully share the burden of camp cook.  But, it takes figuring out exactly how to feed a large group.  How many stoves, how many pots/pans, how much food, etc.  It is really more complicated than it actually apears.

We had several issues with our site as well with certain things we had planned for the scouts not being open due to being closed for the season.  However, the scouts seems to be overly facinated with a huge ditch near the site as well as the abundance of leaves on the ground and didn't seem to mind too much.

Warren — Assistant Cubmaster

2:07 pm
November 29, 2010


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

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posts 492

One of the easiest things that I have found when cooking for groups, and not being able to gauge how much to buy/cook/serve, is to bring extra add-ons…fruit, breads, meats and cheeses. Also bringing items like instant oatmeal and granola bars helps, as some people are fussier, and any leftovers can be stored for a long time.

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12:30 pm
December 2, 2010


smwalker_oh

Middletown, Ohio

PTC Star Scout

posts 596

The easiest way to make sure you have the right amount of food is to have a cutoff date a week before the campout that people have to have declined or RSVP'ed the total from their family. Then they pay their share whether they show up or not. It does cut down on these problems.

We use an opt out system where the families have to tell us if they are NOT attending…we assume everyone is going with 1 scout and 1 adult until they tell us otherwise. The day after the cutoff date, we charge their Scout accounts accordingly so they're paying even if they no-show (with some exceptions, but "it was cold/hot/rainy/snowy/icy" isn't one of them).

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10:39 pm
January 1, 2011


AmyS

Tucson, AZ

PTC Bear

posts 52

We re-learned a lot on this trip. Unfortunately we'll probably have to do it again, as *that* camping chair has now dropped scouting.

Re: the whole budgeting / RSVP / cut-off thing–We've got a problem in our pack that we set dates to RSVP and then end up not keeping them. So, people wait until the last minute, and then some. Plus, if there's money due, we don't always require cash on the barrelhead with the RSVP and we don't have scout accounts. This is a perennial problem.

We've toyed with the idea of charging less or not charging for the campout and having everyone bring their food individually (or team up as dens). It would be more of a pain at some of the campgrounds we use, though, because there are limited cooking facilities to start with. I don't know if it would help or hinder with our pack's handling of the 2 kids with nut allergies.

It was definitely a memorable campout, though. The moon was so bright you could see everything–even the skunks wandering the campground in the middle of the night.


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