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Resources for New Scouters

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6:45 pm
January 12, 2011


mikemenn

Roswell, GA

PTC Bobcat

posts 2

Hi,
Up front I want to say that I'm not a "new" Scouter. Going on my 4th doesn't make me a long-timer by any means, but I've got my feet wet in 2 packs and District events to have an idea of the big picture of Scouting and Cub Scouts.

I've noticed that there is a wealth of talent, resources, energy and time put into the Boy Scouts side of the BSA. From lots of literature to scout reservations leaning to equipment with order boys to (in my District's case) more BSA leaders at Roundtable than Cub Leaders, it almost seems like Cubbies are an after thought.

I know the reasons for this: by the time boys get to the BS, their parents (and thus leaders) know what's going on and have a vested interested in the program. People who joined as cubs but who had to leave due to time, money or distate get weeded out leaving a core group of leaders.

Cub Scouts has a huge turnover in leaders. This is due, in part, to parents starting in 1st grade and then realizing they don't want to be a part of the program to parents joining when their sons are older (Bears, Webelos) and thus are only there for 1 or 2 years. By the time their convinced this is a great program and they should be in the leadership, we've lost a year or so of their time.

With that said, it still seems extremely complicated and intricate all of the info we want our Leaders to absorb. There's the basic training, and the reading of the scout books. There's the Cub Leader Handbook and the new Pack and Den resource guide. There's websites and extra manuals, BALOO, first aid, Roundtable, forms, awards, applications, money, uniforms, pinewood derby….agh! It's great stuff if you know what's going on, but the learning curve is tremendous. And by the time they good at what their doing, they're moving up to a Troop. Cub Scouting is just the proving grounds of the Boy Scouts, it seems.

I'm enjoying Cubmaster Chris' podcasts. They have their place in this vast network of Scouting. But I also think an audio "school" of sorts could be made. As more ipods and mp3 players get sold in this country, I think people are going to be taking advantage of their exercise, driving, or chore time where they could be inputing scouting knowledge in a wise fashion. You can't look up something on BoyScoutTrail.com while tooling down the road to Disney World. But you can with a podcast!

But podcasts need to be ordered and searchable. If a Webelos leader needs info on Arrow of Light or the Treasurer needs ideas on money mangement, where could he go? Internet for sure. But why not listen to someone who's been through it, has put a lot of good stuff and bad stuff through their processing noggin and is willing to spit it out for others to learn from. (Check out the STUFF YOU SHOULD KNOW podcasts at How STuff Works.com. I like their style and format.)

What's the point of this post? I don't know where this will lead. But it's an avenue where that doesn't seem to have been touched on in the WWW and discussion on it may help.

YiS

12:02 am
January 13, 2011


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

Admin

posts 492

I will be the first to say thanks for listening, even if you don't listen to True North. I don't want to speak for the other hosts, but as for my show, True North, I can say that about 80-90% of my content is experienced based.

I "did my time" as a Cub leader, and still am one. I am the Pack Trainer for my wife's pack. I used to be a den leader and Cubmaster for that pack, and have been the Committee Chair for another pack when we moved a couple of years ago. It's true…it's hard to get used to the Cub program, as leaders are in and out on an annual basis, whereas Boy Scouts have leaders there for the long haul.

With my shows, I talk about what worked for me, what didn't, and what I might want to try. I use my experiences not to learn from my mistakes, but to let my listeners know that they are not alone when they have issues with their Pack, Troop or Crew.

Anyone can preach from the literature, I choose to preach about my experiences with the program.

Once again, thanks for listening and please, help spread the word…

Host of the True North Podcast
Co-Host of Scout Nation
Scoutmaster
Dad and Husband…

6:47 pm
March 2, 2011


MISS Liberty

California

Admin

posts 231

I think the intent of National with the "online training" was to sort of touch upon the "need" you're suggesting that's out there, Mike.  It doesn't quite fit the bill, but when it comes to tech, Boy Scouts of America is only just getting its feet wet and only recently embracing technology rather than rejecting it.

(locally, Scouters STILL reject any sort of tech – even GPS!!)

Cubmaster Chris did design this site to be searchable with tags, etc.  I am the first to admit (having posted one or two of the shows) that not all hosts are very good about tagging our shows properly so that they are easily searchable. 

Too, there's just SO MUCH INFORMATION – not just on PTC Media but within the shows themselves.  We may do a show, for example, on ceremonies – but within it talk about ceremonies that are "green" or "earth friendly" – but who wants to listen to a WHOLE SHOW on ceremonies if they only want to get to the bit about the ONE they can use for an Earth Day celebration?  It's not as easy as with text where one can skip ahead merrily to the part they want and leave the rest behind.  This is why websites like http://scoutermom.com do SO well – small, specific bits of information – every day – well organized, easily searchable, and concise enough as to grab what you need and go without much filtering.

I'm definitely not against the idea of "Audio Tutorials" of a sort for Scouters – "On the Go Round Table?"  Heh.  I'm just not the one cut out to organize that sort of thing, since my brain (and clearly my mouth, if you've listened to our show) just sorta barfs out information in no particular order.  Small "snippet" tutorials/informative bits (5-10 minutes at most) would be awesome and make them more easily accessiable/searchable if you just wanted that one tidbit of information.

This is definitely an idea worth putting in the Parking Lot to see if anyone will bite, because I know as a new leader I would most definitely have made use of such a resource.  (Maybe even now, if I had time/need.)

"[S]He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which." ~ Douglas Adams

10:14 am
May 3, 2012


Cubmaster Kevin

PTC Tiger

posts 7

I think that this would be a great resource tool. My pack is pretty new (3 years old now) and I have been the cubmaster for 1 year. We do have the basic events down, but I have been utilizing several sites on the web for ideas on how to spice them up a bit. I just found out about this forum from listening to Cubmaster Chris' podcast, but have been tapping into several podcasts for about a year. To get back to this post topic, I was listening in for tips to run a raingutter regatta where the boys could build and race the same day and cubmaster Chris talked about having a similar regatta, but did not go into detail on how to run one. I am interested in possibly doing a podcast like this but have no idea on how to get started. What software do you use to record the show on your computer and then how do you get it on I-tunes? Also, what are the costs associated with this? I have found that sometimes the best way to learn about something is to try and teach it. Can someone here get me pointed in the right direction?

8:50 am
May 4, 2012


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

Admin

posts 492

Podcasting is pretty easy, and it's free…the biggest thing that we have to "pay for" is our server space that we host the shows on, and on the whole, it's not that bad, cost-wise.

There are a lot of venues for hosting your shows. This link may help

http://libsyn.com/3/alt-index.php

Other than that, I don't pay for anything. I use a free recording and editing tool called Audacity, and creating a feed account at iIunes is free. If doing a co-hosted show, I use Skype and Pamela to record the conversation.

I found free intro music, and some of the sound bytes that I use are taken from the internet. I do all my own audio mixing with Audacity. A couple of years ago, I had a professional do my intro, but now, I just use the PTC intro.

Our sponsors are actual sponsors…we don't just mention them because we like them…they want us to advertise their wares. ALPS was a huge boost, something that we worked for over a year, but they came onboard and it's pretty cool.

Hope this helps

Host of the True North Podcast
Co-Host of Scout Nation
Scoutmaster
Dad and Husband…

12:11 am
May 7, 2012


Cubmaster Kevin

PTC Tiger

posts 7

Shawn, you are a font of scouting knowledge! I can't believe that it has taken me 2 years to sign on and post to this forum. I have been listening to several of the podcasts from ptc, but this is taking it to the next level. I have been mainly listening to the cub scout focused podcasts, but now that my son is rising into webelos I need to start checking the boy scout centered shows. As soon as I complete this response, I am going to download some true north shows. Thanks for your help!


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