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There ain't no Akela here – Scout Nation Show 2
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6:01 am
February 25, 2011


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

Admin

posts 492

Scoutmasters Bryan and Shawn talk about the parents who hover, get underfoot, and just may not understand the differences between the Cub Scout and Boy Scout programs…they affectionately refer to them as "helicopter parents"…


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Host of the True North Podcast
Co-Host of Scout Nation
Scoutmaster
Dad and Husband…

10:02 am
February 25, 2011


ScouterAdam

Portland, OR

PTC Webelos

posts 86

Great podcast.  Lots of helpful tips and tricks.  Making me wonder if I am a Heliocopter Parent and don't know it.  Maybe I should start a group Heliocopter Parents Anonomous (HPA)?  I know that I am not (see…) but it gives me a good guideline on what my next step will be once my son crosses over in 2013.  I have already told a Troop what I want to do.  One ASM our UC explained to me their training of new ASMs.   Along with that info, I have realized that I need a break from Cubscouts before I go into Boyscouts.

 

Thanks so much.  Look for blog posting soon about this on my blog…;)

 

YISYell

Cubmaster Pack 221 Portland, OR WE1-492-09 Beaver Patrol, Staff WE1-492011, Blog:http://scouteradam.wordpress.com/

8:27 am
February 26, 2011


Ken

Scranton, PA

PTC Bear

posts 70

Great show.  I listened to this one first, and just wrapped up #1. 

It's funny, at Scout Sunday a few weeks ago I was talking to one of our Webelos II parents.  We had just awarded the boys thier Arrow of Light the night before at the Blue and Gold, and they will be crossing over to Boy Scouts in March.

Mom and I were talking about what she has to do get him ready.  We had a long discussion about the differences on Boy Scouts vs Cub Scouts, but in the end I said "Just remember, there's no Akela in Boy Scouts."

I'm waiting for more.

Ken

Ken Morgan
Pack Trainer – Pack 16
http://www.pack16scranton.org

1:41 pm
February 28, 2011


bryanspellman

Fishers, IN

Admin

posts 97

Thanks for the feedback Scouters!  Glad it was a useful show!

 

What do you want to hear about next?

 

YIS
Bryan

Father of an Eagle Scout : Scoutmaster, Troop 199 Fishers, IN : Eagle Scout Class of '88 : Co-Host of Scout Nation : Twitter @bryanspellman : http://www.troop199.org

5:53 am
March 1, 2011


Ken

Scranton, PA

PTC Bear

posts 70

I know you already touched on the pros and cons of the two sizes, but I'd love to hear more about implementing the Patrol Method.

Specifically, in a small troop, how do you have (or do you even need ) a PLC when the troop isn't much bigger than one patrol.  Isn't a Senior Patrol Leader pretty much the Patrol Leader (or looking at it the other way, isn't the one Patrol Leader by default the SPL?)

By contrast, how does the PLC manage a troop with 13 Patrols?

How does the role of the adult leaders change in regard to working with the PLC in the two different sized troops? Does one size need more adult involvement than the other?

Thanks, guys.

Ken Morgan
Pack Trainer – Pack 16
http://www.pack16scranton.org

8:44 am
March 2, 2011


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

Admin

posts 492

Thanks, Ken…

Bryan and I already have the preliminary notes in regards with your last post.

Once again, thanks to all the listeners…with your great feedback and suggestions, Bryan and I have notes for the next 3-4 shows…please, keep it up!

Host of the True North Podcast
Co-Host of Scout Nation
Scoutmaster
Dad and Husband…

10:34 am
March 2, 2011


bryanspellman

Fishers, IN

Admin

posts 97

Ditto!  This is what we envisioned when we started Scout Nation…discussing topics YOU want to hear about…

 

Keep the comments and feedback coming!

 

YIS
Bryan

Father of an Eagle Scout : Scoutmaster, Troop 199 Fishers, IN : Eagle Scout Class of '88 : Co-Host of Scout Nation : Twitter @bryanspellman : http://www.troop199.org

12:27 am
March 24, 2011


CC Nancy

Severy, KS

PTC Bear

posts 74

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Guys LOVE the show.

We run our pack a little different than most. We no longer have a parent of lets say a wolf be the wolf den leader. They can be the assistant or leader of another den. The reason for this is that we have had way too much favoritism and it was questionable on what they did and didn't do. We have found that the boys do so much better if their parent is not their den leader. Tigers is the only exception as we all know.

Webelos we all so do a little different….Jr. Webelos: parents can sign the handbook but the young man has to bring to the leader proof of what they did..then the leader will sign it off. Sr. Webelos: Only the leader can sign the book. Our theory is that this this will start to ween the parents off signing the book and the boy to learn the responsibility.

We encourage the troop to be very involved in the troop so that if they are around a lot then the W2S transition will not be as stressful.

Love the show and am so glad that your doing it. Keep it up. Looking forward to your next show.

Nancy

Committee Chairwoman for pack 35

2:46 pm
May 2, 2011


AmyS

Tucson, AZ

PTC Bear

posts 52

Nancy, do you have all your dens meet at the same time, then? If not, how do you deal with having leaders and boys on different schedules?

All our old pack's dens meet different days of the week, decided on by the families in that den. I can't quite imagine, say, leading the Bear den on Tuesdays and having to have my son at Wolves on Wednesdays. Just seems like a lot of extra coordination for those families with leaders and kids.  Or am I missing something?


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