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ADHD2

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9:41 pm
August 6, 2009


insanescouter

las vegas nv

PTC Tiger

posts 11

Hi all I am working on several more shows for Cubmaster Chris one of these is the much requested ADHD2 show. I come to you asking what questions you may have, what topice you would like covered, etc in this show. There is a 95% chance there will be a special highly qualified guest for this show. Thanks for all your input…

Scott Robertson — http://insanescouter.org

1:04 pm
August 9, 2009


Bobs Hill Boy

Illinois

PTC Tiger

posts 15

Yes it's a big topic. That & kids with Aspergers. Leaders need to know that just asking the right questions, & a little more guidence & these kids can thrive & be very successful in scouting. My son is our troop's SPL & he has aspergers. The SM gives him a little more guidence & he gets it done. He's preparing to run our Court of Honour this month & has already been MC for an Eagle Court of Honour. Asperger & ADHD kids can accomplish alot, they just need a little more investment of time, and just a lttle different approach. A show with the tools for leaders to do this would be great!

7:51 pm
August 9, 2009


MISS Emily

Admin

posts 132

I'm very new here, and this is actually my first post, so I don't know much about how this topic has been covered before.  However, as one who runs social skills and behavioral mod groups for cub-aged children with ADHD for my "real" job, I actually think that the program is well-suited to deal with such challenges.  I'm curious about the existance of an ADHD show given that you titled this ADHD2– does one already exist? . I'd love to listen to it.

MISS Emily, Committee Chair and TDL Pack 103, Atlanta, GA **A proud Mother in Scouting Service along with MISS Kris, MISS Liberty, and MISS Shannon**

9:44 pm
August 9, 2009


insanescouter

las vegas nv

PTC Tiger

posts 11

The orginal ADHD podcast is at http://www.leaderscampfire.com…..mpfire-44/ … the show actually is more on learning disablities in general then ADHD specifically it just got named ADHD.

I personally believe that I have Aspergers but cant afford the $180 an hour to be tested to know for sure. Eventually I will get tested though.

Primiarily I am looking for topice to cover in the part two of this show. For example if you could as someone who was on a state board of education, is a teacher, etc any questions … lets also say this person was an expert in learning disabilities … what would you ask … what would you like to know?

Scott Robertson — http://insanescouter.org

3:30 pm
August 10, 2009


smwalker_oh

Middletown, Ohio

PTC First Class

posts 484

Maybe these are more tips than topics, but I was fortunate to bring two boys with me to resident camp a couple of weeks ago who are ADHD.  Actually, both are more like ADHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHD!  There's two things I learned that were very very valuable to me in helping to ensure that all of us had a great time (and we did!):

  1. If there was something I needed to tell the boy (like "Stop doing that please" or "Pay attention" or even just to let him know the schedule for the next couple of hours), I would get him to look me in the eyes to ensure I had his attention and he would be great.  At the beginning of camp I didn't know this trick yet and I spent most of the first half of the first day constantly repeating myself.  After that, I rarely had to tell him the same thing twice.
  2. (Perhaps the most important for leaders taking kids to resident camp).  Get them their meds on time if they take them.  At camp they had a mealtime med distrobution policy (breakfast and supper), but the dinnertime med was getting taken as late as 7:00 PM and he was supposed to take it between 3 and 4 PM.  When a kid is used to being on his meds and then they wear off it seems to be even worse than the kid who is on meds all school year but parents discontinue during the summertime so he hasn't been on meds at all.  Learned quickly to go ahead and take the extra trip up to the admin building in mid-afternoon, and by the end of camp the nurse would distribute the med to me in a zip-lock bag so I could give it out at the appropriate time.

A couple of "lessons learned" I figured were worth sharing.

Scott Walker,nCC/WDL/PT, Pack 19 Middletown | CR, Pack & Troop 801 Middletown | Hopewell District Cub Roundtable Commissioner | Dan Beard Council Certified Trainer

6:10 pm
August 10, 2009


Nick the UK GSL

Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, UK

PTC Boy Scout

posts 140

I'm looking forward to hearing this.

Over the last 2 – 3 years we've had 3 boys join us who have had Aspergers. In fact one of them started quite recently with his 2 brothers and although I knew one of them has ASD, I couldn't work out which it was until their Mum told me.

Although I work in a special needs school, I am not trained on any of the various conditions the students have (I'm the IT tech!), so I went to an evening course on ASD last year and found it very illuminating. The one thing you learn is that there is no typical behaviour with ASD, just differing degrees.

One thing I've found though is that the other Scouts are able to learn and understand ASD and are able to treat the person with ASD with respect and not just as that 'odd nutter'!

Nick Wood – Group Scout Leader 1st Stoke-on-Trent & Newcastle, St. Andrews Porthill, UK

1:34 pm
August 13, 2009


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

Admin

posts 375

That is a really good point, Nick…

What works for one scout with ADHD or Autism, doesn't necessarily work with another scout. The same goes for all scouts without a disability.

The main thing, and Nick hit this one too, is that the scout shouldn't be treated as a nutter…crazy kid, or whatnot. He should still be afforded all of the same graces that a 'normal' scout should…but in essence, each boy is different in their own way…and that is what makes each and everyone of them unique.

Husband of a Committee Chair, Father of a Scout, a Webelos and an anxious 4 year old, Pack Trainer of Pack 4363 & Scoutmaster of Troop 1363

10:57 pm
January 18, 2010


coopdad

Knoxville TN

PTC Bobcat

posts 3

I have been looking for the ADHD podcast on Itunes for a while with no luck (much needed in my den).
Unfortunately, your link above doesn't work. Would you mind checking it for me?
Thanks,
John

John Goethert – Wolf den leader (Den 2), Pack 926 Toqua District – The Episcopal School of Knoxville

11:33 pm
January 18, 2010


insanescouter

las vegas nv

PTC Tiger

posts 11

It appears to no longer by online, we will have to ask CM Chris to get it back up somewhere. I am willing to host an archieve of the AHAW and LC shows on InsaneScouter if nothing else …

Scott Robertson — http://insanescouter.org

12:30 am
January 30, 2010


troop1asm-alton-il

Alton, IL

PTC Bobcat

posts 1

I am new to Leader's Campfire and all of the PTC media casts. I spend most of the day in my work van listening to L.C. I am an ASM with Troop 1. Obviously we are a long standing troop. This was my first and only troop. I achieved my Eagle at age 17 and transitioned to ASM. Then I took a small hiatus for some school while keeping my membership current with my troop. I helped during summers and weekends home when possible. I have renewed my dedication to my troop. About a month after that I was asked by my ADC to be a UC. I, of course, answered the call with no delay. Back on topic, I have one boy that is diagnosed with AS. I have been given a little information from a special needs teacher. The main topic always seems to be…. Don't enable them. Treat them the same as the rest of the boys! Just, keep in mind their condition and take a little extra time to make sure they understand.

Their condition allows them to quote social norms in textbook style but generally have difficulty acting on that knowledge in a fluid real-life situation. They usually act in a very rigid set of actions that they have created for themselves, like forced eye contact, resulting in appearing socially naive. More modern studies have shown that adults with AS have a higher probability to have other disorders like schizophrenia. IF these kids get the development provided by the Scouting programs, I feel, those other conditions may be a more limited occurrence.


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