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Troop visiting

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9:00 am
April 24, 2010


ScoutLeaderDan

Burien, WA

PTC Bobcat

posts 2

Concerning the topic of Webelos visiting troops: I am experience this right now. My nephew and I are looking at troops in our area to determine which one to join. We have visited four of five so far and this is what we experienced:

1. The fed Troop: This troop is the one our pack "feeds", they also provide all the Den Chiefs for the pack and hosted us at the Klondike Derby this year. One of the committee members greeted us as we entered, gave us some handouts and talked about some of the upcoming events. We all participated in the opening ceremony. My nephew then went off to be involved in a lecture about fishing while the SM greeted the visiting parents and talked about the program, their uniform & clothing donation program for incoming youth, quartermaster inventory, and other aspects of the troop. Possitive: Because the Den Chiefs were familiar to my nephew and we had previously visited for Klondike prep, my nephew was somewhat at ease. It was great to get the information and the assurance that there was alot of equipment that could be borrowed so there was no need to drain the bank account all at once on camp gear. Negative: None of the adult leaders were in uniform.

2. I had sent emails to the SM and CC of four other troops, only two responded, this was one of them. The CC greeted me by name and called over the SPL & ASPL who greeted my nephew. I then was briefly introduced to the SM and an ASM. I was then left to observe as the troop conducted their meeting- lecture, activity, activity, game, activity. Positive: It appeared that they had good structure to their meetings. Also, there were several Webelos that just joined, that helped my nephew feel comfortable. Negative: As a "parent" i did not receive any information beyond what I could observe.

3. I never got an email response from this one. I had to call, and then only got a family member who could not completely confirm the meeting. We were greeted by an ASM who then introduced us to the SM. The troop went about their business and again I was mostly left to observe. They did planning for a campout that weekend, one of the boys who could not attend took my nephew aside and went over some of the Tenderfoot requirements. They then all went outside to play a game. Positive: Great initiative to the boy who worked one-on-one with my nephew. It kept him engaged as troops went about their business. Negative: As a "parent" i did not receive any information beyond what I could observe. Also, there were no other boys my nephews age, I think he was a bit intimidated at first.

4. This was probably the biggest troop of the four, thoughover half were young scouts, eleven and twelve year olds. We were not greeted, we introduced ourselves to someone who looked like an ASM, not sure, couldn't see a uniform. The troop meeting They spent the entirety on planning for a campout that weekend. Positive: Lots of scouts my nephew's age. Negative: I hated that out of the nine older scouts only the SPL, ASPL & TG were in uniform. These boys that were not in uniform were also slouchy in their chairs, were texting on their phones, etc.

So, troops should have an adult to greet visitors as they arrive and turn the youth over to a TG, SPL, or ASPL. Information should be given out and the troop program should be explained. Uniforms are a must.

9:38 am
April 24, 2010


Scouter Doug

Kenilworth, NJ

PTC Webelos

posts 91

Sounds like your nephew has a pretty wide selection. What were his impressions of the Troops you visited?

Doug Metz – Scoutmaster – Troop 83 – Kenilworth, NJ http://scoutersjourney.wordpress.com – twitter: dwmetz

6:46 pm
April 24, 2010


ScoutLeaderDan

Burien, WA

PTC Bobcat

posts 2

Hey Doug. So far, my nephew is enjoying all of them. He is pretty easy… Make him laugh at a joke and do something fun, and he's hooked. They've all done that to some extent. My concern right now is gear, we have very little at home. A troop that can help in that respect would reduce the burden. Proximity is important, the second one I described is only blocks away. I think we will eliminate one or two and then revisit the remainders. Sometimes having choices makes things difficult. My two nephews have only been in the program for about a year and they love the social and active elements. I myself grew up in scouting and can attribute many of my values and qualities to Scouting. In the end I have to remember that if we are not happy with our choice we can always transfer.

7:17 pm
April 24, 2010


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

Admin

posts 483

It sounds like you are on the correct path, here is are some other thoughts on the topic…

What to LOOK for in a troop visit:

• Is the unit Scout-led?
• Are the Adult leaders trained?
• Who runs the meetings? The Scouts or the adults?
• Are the older Scouts teaching and working with the younger Scouts?
• Methods. There 8 methods in Scouting. If they are NOT USING doing them… ask why not.
• Adult and Scout interaction. How do they get along?
• Scout interaction. Are they using the Patrol method?
• Are the Scouts having fun?
• Look at the Troops annual plan- Outdoors, service, training.

All of these things are important to observe, but should not make the final determination for selecting a troop. A lot of troops have different styles to their operation…the main idea to get from a troop visit is:

1. Does my scout seem happy?
2. Is my scout accepted?
3. Is this where he wants to be?

What to ASK on a troop visit:

When you visit troops, try to get answers to these important questions to help you decide on a home troop:
• How many registered scouts?
• How many of those registered scouts are active?
• What goes on in troop meetings?
• What service projects does the troop do?
• How is troop leadership managed?
• When and how often does the troop meet? (should be weekly, with few exceptions)
• How is family communication handled?
• What does the troop expect of me (the parent)?
• What fundraising is done?
• How are the funds managed? Does each scout have his own account?
• What equipment is provided by the troop and the scout?
• What uniforms are required?
• What district and council events does the troop attend/plan on attending?
• How will new scouts learn what to do as Boy Scouts?
• How much will a year of scouting cost?

There are many other questions that may be asked, these are just some of the more common questions.

The most important thing that you should take from a troop visit is your questions got answered, or someone will get back to you with the exact answer. If that can’t happen, it’s not cause for a red flag, but something that needs to be addressed.

Ultimately, the goals of most troops are to keep your scout happy. If things aren’t working out with the troop that you have joined, you and your scout can transfer to another troop that may meet the needs of your scout.

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