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Webelos to Scouts trans – troop focus

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1:48 pm
October 18, 2009


T79.lori

Edmond, OK

PTC Bobcat

posts 1

I have listened to several podcasts on the Webelos to Scouts transition and found a wealth of info for Webelos leaders, but I'd like to know more about what I can do on the troop side to "be prepared" when webelos visit. We do lots of good stuff – Webelos Woods, run a craftsman pin clinic, invite dens to camp with us – but we are really weak when they join the troop. We do teach Adult Leadership Training to help the parents learn how Boy Scouts is different, and we have ASMs and Troop Guides work with the new Scouts, but it still isn't coming together properly. I think the boys make the switch okay after a few months, but the parents seem to stay confused for a long time. How do I explain "boy led" to parents who want to be involved in every thing their Scout does? I think the main problem is the new parents want a top-notch experience for their boys, but when they see the messiness of boy-led troops they assume our program is poorly run. How do I get parents to sit on their hands long enough to see the good results that come in time? Also, does anyone have training materials for Boy Scouts to help them learn to be better ambassadors for their troop when Webelos visit? Our guys are too busy amusing themselves and only think about visitors when we tell them to get engaged.

9:07 pm
October 18, 2009


Bobs Hill Boy

Illinois

PTC Tiger

posts 15

There are several Webelos to Scout transition guides for parents, webelos, & boy scouts out there on the internet. Modify one to fit your needs. We did that & hand these out during the webelos troop visit.

12:49 pm
November 17, 2009


SM Shawn

Green Bay, WI

Admin

posts 375

There are a couple of points that maybe I can hit on…

Assuring the parents that the troop is boy-led, but adult-supervised, will be the first of many tasks. It's really hard for parents to "cut the apron strings"….there is no friendly way to say it. The parents have been involved in their son's Cub Scouting career since day one, and now it's time for you and your troop to take over…speaking from a guy's point of view, it's like a guy fixing up car for 4 1/2 years to get it to where there isn't anything left to do, but to admire it, but another guy wants to come along and take that car to the show. The guy doesn't want anyone but himself, to take that car to the show, but the guy also doesn't know what to do when he gets to the show…and then is disappointed when he doesn't have the best experience…

What I am getting at is, as a troop, educate the parents…hit them with the proverbial 2 x 4, "Mom/Dad, our unit does things this way…" and then explain all of this to them. Boy-led, patrols, PLC, and the heirarchy. Help them to understand, or educate them…that is what parents want. "I don't know how Boy Scouts works, but I am not going to ask. I will just do things like I did in Cub Scouts…" is what a lot of parents think. Oh, by the way…these conversations should happen on the den level, pack level, and the sooner the better. Education is the key. On a personal note, I am already talking to parents whose son's are in the 3rd grade, about Boy Scouts…in 8 short months, those Bears will be Webelos I, and ready for a whole new experience. Your troop should be there to help with that guidance and education.

Secondly, for the training manual for the behavior of the Scouts when Webelos visit, I have a really good resource…it's called the Scout Law, the Boy Scout Handbook, and the Scoutmaster's Handbook…

In a "top-notch" troop, the Scoutmaster leads via the Senior Patrol Leader…and that is where the adult intervention should start and stop. Any parent that has to get involved, and can't go to the Scoutmaster, well, needs to step back. The parent should trust the Scoutmaster to control the situation, via the SPL. The SM also keeps the boys inline with SM conferences, and using the Scout Oath, Law and by using the 8 methods of scouting effectively. It's nobody else's place to ever step in…in other words, it's the Scoutmaster's Party, he is the host and has delegated the activities to the boys…trust that his judgement is correct. Overstepping those boundries only undermines what he has been charged with, via the Troop Committee. The troop committee appointed the Scoutmaster, and was approved by the Charter Organization, so someone likes that person. If the SM isn't doing the job, then maybe a replacement is in order.

Sorry for the long-windedness, but sometimes I don't step off my soapbox soon enough

In essence, educate the parents of the Cubs that you want to recruit, and the Scoutmaster, Scout Law and Oath, and the books should be handling the behavior…

Husband of a Committee Chair, Father of a Scout, a Webelos and an anxious 4 year old, Pack Trainer of Pack 4363 & Scoutmaster of Troop 1363


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