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8:31 am
March 17, 2010
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scoutmasterjerry
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The Final part of my great discussion with Mike Walton. As I wrap this lengthy show up I want to say that I had an absolute blast talking with Mike.Thanks for hanging in there, I know that this show is long, but I just could not find part of the discussion to cut.
In this show we talk about uniforms, patches, the OA and more…
Check out Mike Walton at his web site.
He has many great resources.. a fantastic one is a book Mike is putting together called Pins and Patches.
Thanks for hanging in there over these three shows.. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did.
Have a Great Scouting Day!
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Jerry Schleining Jr.nScoutmasternHave A Great Scouting Day!!nwww.thescoutmasterminute.netntwitter: smjerry
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2:48 pm
March 28, 2010
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Nick the UK GSL
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Just finished listening to these three shows (big catch up on the PTC shows at the mo!) and I have to say that I really enjoyed them! Mike seems to be SO enthusiastic about Scouting.
Obviously I found the bit about international Scouting interesting. It's great to see how Scouts in other countries do things as it is a great way to broaden our horizons.
I can kind of understand why you guys were so proud to be recipients of the World Scout badge before the BSA issued it to all Scouts. However, I was always, and still am if I'm honest, proud to be able to say that ALL Scouts wherever they may be at whatever level wear this badge.
I hope you get time to chat to Mike again and if he's ever passing the UK it would be great to meet! 
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9:30 am
March 30, 2010
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bryanspellman
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Listening to #3, excellent so far…however, maybe putting the cart before the horse but a little upset on the exclusivity thoughts with the World Crest. Isn't that something that ALL Scouts should wear. I would think that the anger would have been at the BSA for making something available to EVERY Scout worldwide only available to a handful (relatively) of BSA Scouts.
In my Troop every Scout understands what that purple crest means and why it is worn and every Scout thinks it is so very cool that some kid half way around the world, no matter what he/she is or what other things they wear, will have the one same patch somewhere on their uniform…
Still a great podcast! But only the first time I've ever disagreed with the SMM…have a great scouting day!!!!
YIS
Bryan
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Father of a Life Scout : Scoutmaster, Troop 199 Fishers, IN : Eagle Scout Class of '88 :
Always trying to Do My Best!
Twitter: bryanspellman : www.troop199.org
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10:46 pm
March 30, 2010
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scoutmasterjerry
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Thanks Bryan,
A bit of a misunderstanding, in our discussion on the World Crest emblem, we were talking about the '70's and early '80's when the BSA for whatever reason had not yet adopted the WOSM emblem as the rest of the world had. Until the early '80's only the members of the BSA that participated on an international level wore it. This is not us making the rule or even agreeing that it was right or wrong.. it was it it was.
And yes, we did take a lot of pride in wearing it.. it was unique and at the time special.
With the wearing of the badge also came the lesson of what it represented.. I think that was or is the point of the discussion.
Thanks
Have a Great Scouting Day!
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Jerry Schleining Jr.nScoutmasternHave A Great Scouting Day!!nwww.thescoutmasterminute.netntwitter: smjerry
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11:48 pm
March 30, 2010
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Scouter Doug
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I'm glad there's something we all have common to our uniforms. It's something all new Scouts should be taught right away I think. At the same point I can definitely see feeling like you lost something when something you earned became something given to all. Before this series I don't think I realized how International your (Jerry) Scouting background was. If you ever run low on show topic that would be an interesting one to hear more about…
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Doug Metz – Assistant Scoutmaster – Troop 83 – Kenilworth, NJ http://scoutersjourney.blogspot.com – twitter: dwmetz
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2:42 am
March 31, 2010
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Nick the UK GSL
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I know I've said this before, but I love the fact that when I am explaining the badges we wear to a new Scout, they are so amazed to learn there are 28 MILLION Scouts worldwide and each one of them, whether they are in the States, Russia, South Africa, Canada, Sweden or in the next local Group to us in Wolstanton (sorry you'll only know where I'm talking of if you live round by me, but you get the idea), we all wear the same badge!
And to tell them, especially the Beavers (6 – 8 year olds), that there are more Scouts than the populations of many countries get some great reactions and they realise just how big Scouting is. All from one little purple badge we all have in common!
Thanks Jerry!
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7:33 am
March 31, 2010
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bryanspellman
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It all wrapped up very nicely! Job well done all around. Would love to see/hear more like this in the future.
I understand the World Crest feelings back then (I was a Scout during the transition). It just seemed like Mike was stating that today's Scout doesnt understand the significance of it, as it is not in current BSA Literature. I would say that if that is his view, he is off a bit. It might be true in a few units but the groups I've been a part of really play up the World Brotherhood, especially these past few years with 100 years of Scouting and now 100 years of BSA…
Keep up the great work!
YIS
Bryan
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Father of a Life Scout : Scoutmaster, Troop 199 Fishers, IN : Eagle Scout Class of '88 :
Always trying to Do My Best!
Twitter: bryanspellman : www.troop199.org
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8:13 am
March 31, 2010
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scoutmasterjerry
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Bryan,
I can appreciate that. What I think Mikes point was, and I may be wrong, but after talking with him at length about this, I believe that his point is that many Scouts just take for granted most of what is part of the Scouting program in general. I tend to agree with that in part. If a Scout is not taught about the World Crest emblem, chances are they are not going to learn about it on their own.
It is sewn on their uniforms when they enter the program, no one "Awards" it to them, so it is in large part just like the flag on their sleeve.. just part of the uniform.
I can speak from personal experience that in my District most Scout leaders have no clue as to the significants of the World Crest… so how can we expect their Scouts to know.
We talked about that at our last camporee… most Scouts did not understand that Scouts all over the world wore it.
I am glad to hear that your Scouts do.. and you better believe that mine do also, but by and large, and I think that this was Mikes point, its on their shirt as much as the words Boy Scouts of America, it belongs there and so be it.
I think if you take Mikes view at face value and really look at the Scouts in your area you will find that to be true. I know I did.
Let me give you another example, last Camporee, our troop flew the WOSM flag in our Camp along with our Troop Flag and the American Flag. Scouts (and leaders) came by asking what it meant. They wondered where I got a flag that looked like the patch??? Huh? But its a fact, it happened and I spent the better part of my time in camp explaining it.
Anyway, thanks again for the discussion, that is what this is all about.
Have a Great Scouting Day!
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Jerry Schleining Jr.nScoutmasternHave A Great Scouting Day!!nwww.thescoutmasterminute.netntwitter: smjerry
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