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The Scoutmaster Minute Show #43
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12:12 am
October 16, 2009


scoutmasterjerry

Troutdale, OR

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posts 169

In this we talk about Woodbadge, Character, The Order of the Arrow, and Electronic Media.

Join Scoutmaster Jerry for a discussion on hot topics that are popping up around the table in Scouting circles.

Thanks for listening.

Have a Great Scouting Day!


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Jerry Schleining Jr.// Scoutmaster// Have A Great Scouting Day!// www.thescoutmasterminute.net// twitter: smjerry

9:36 am
October 16, 2009


Nick the UK GSL

Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, UK

PTC Boy Scout

posts 125

Another great show Jerry.

With regard to the electronic media part and portable 'gadgets', we are always very reluctant to to let Scouts take them to a camp as there is a very high risk of these expensive items getting damaged or lost. Also, we try to ensure mobile phones are not brought for the same reasons and as there will be the parent who is constantly ringing their child to see if they're ok. This does make things difficult when it's little Johnny's first time away from Mum & Dad and increases the chances of home sickness!


Nick Wood – Group Scout Leader 1st Stoke-on-Trent & Newcastle, St. Andrews Porthill, UK

9:44 am
October 16, 2009


Kiff76

Bristol, UK

PTC Webelos

posts 86

Nick the UK GSL said:

Another great show Jerry.

With regard to the electronic media part and portable 'gadgets', we are always very reluctant to to let Scouts take them to a camp as there is a very high risk of these expensive items getting damaged or lost. Also, we try to ensure mobile phones are not brought for the same reasons and as there will be the parent who is constantly ringing their child to see if they're ok. This does make things difficult when it's little Johnny's first time away from Mum & Dad and increases the chances of home sickness!



 Also it makes the Home Contact process very difficult, or at least for now until they implement the findings from the latest review.

Chris Meadows – ACC Scouts – Avon Scout County *10 bins, 4 planks of wood, 3m of rope and a river full of crocodiles. Sounds like a normal Thursday night.

5:27 pm
October 19, 2009


Scouter Jeff

Southern California

PTC Boy Scout

posts 139

Great show, Jerry. I especially liked the part about the Order of the Arrow – very informative

I know a local Scoutmaster that doesn't have his troop participate in the Order. He feels that it "draws away" and "distracts" Scouts from the troop and troop activities. What would you say to a SM who feels participating in the OA will take the Scout away from his own troop?

- Scouter Jeff Assistant Scoutmaster, District Trainer http://thetrainerscorner.wordpress.com/ Twitter: Scouter Jeff

1:02 am
October 20, 2009


scoutmasterjerry

Troutdale, OR

Admin

posts 169

Well Jeff, first I would remind him of what the Order of the Arrow is.  It is not a "Secret organization" that shanghi's boy Scouts and removes them from their units.

It is a way of HONORING those Scouts that demonstrate leadership and service in their UNITS.

In the Order of the Arrow, Scouts and Scouters are OBLIGATED to serve their units FIRST.

Units that allow the spirit of Brotherhood, Cheerfulness, and SERVICE tend to have stronger programs with better youth leadership.  
I would tell our uniformed Scoutmaster that he is not allowing his Scouts to explore the fullness that is Scouting's opportunities.  He is taking away a bog part of their Scouting experience and not allowing them to better serve their unit (fellow Scouts), their communities, and their families .

I guess that is where I would start.. then we would have to move on from their.

What I have learned though in my travels as an OA Advisor is that Scoutmasters that do not allow their Scouts to participate for the reasons that you mentioned are very uniformed and typically have substandard programs in their Troops.

Have a Great Scouting Day!

Jerry Schleining Jr.// Scoutmaster// Have A Great Scouting Day!// www.thescoutmasterminute.net// twitter: smjerry

11:47 pm
October 20, 2009


Jon in HB

Huntington Beach, CA

PTC Tiger

posts 10

It's ironic that you mention Wood Badge & gadgets in the same show. I just wrapped up week two of Wood Badge and there were several stern reminders from our Senior Patrol Leader about the use of cell phones and web surfing on the course. Several people would leave presentations to take a work call. Some were looking up ticket & project ideas on the internet during the day. I admit I had to make an effort to remember to turn off my iPhone and not pull it out every five minutes to send a tweet or check my mail.

If adults can't divorce themselves from technology, how can we expect the youth to do so? Sure there are a few apps on my phone that are great for camping; Coleman's Creepy Tales, Starmap Pro, Geocaching, and iFart (Cub Scouts LOVE that one!) but when my battery eventually dies I actually still have a good time. I think it's more important that adults set the example with the cell phones. I always see dads at the den and pack meetings buried in there Blackberry and iPhones. Kids know what they see and as long as we have a gadget in our hands they'll want one too.


Jon

9:50 am
October 21, 2009


scoutmasterjerry

Troutdale, OR

Admin

posts 169

Jon… 

All Great points.  Like I said in the show, there is a time and place for all of this.  Cell phones, ipods, and psp's are fantastic gadgets while in the car on the way to the trail head.  Our policy (unofficial) is that they all stay locked up in the car.  That way the Scouts get the most of the out door experience.

So far as meetings.  NOT ALLOWED in meetings at all.  We have a slight advantage in a boy led troop.. Parents are not in front as so if they are buried in their Blackberry.. no one cares.. typically they are outside or away from the unit.

I agree with you on being the examples.. not just with gadgets.. but with everything.

Thanks for listening.

Have a Great Scouting Day!

Jerry Schleining Jr.// Scoutmaster// Have A Great Scouting Day!// www.thescoutmasterminute.net// twitter: smjerry

1:03 pm
October 21, 2009


BigMc

Houston

PTC Tenderfoot

posts 209

Great show Jerry.  Our policy is also that electronics stay locked up in the car for the duration of the campout.  We also impose a time rule for travel – if the drive is less than two hours, there is a ban on electronics.  And absolutely none at meetings.

Kevin Mc. Den Leader – Pack 1187; Committee Member – Troop 1865; Copperhead District; Sam Houston Area Council; Houston, TX; Twitter TaxgeekKM


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